03 Oct 05 The Shower
I want this issue settled once and for all. See, I can no longer think for myself, I rely upon the collective wisdom of the blog community.
Is “the wedding shower” and “the baby shower” really supposed to include the men? I grew up in the context of this being something the ladies did for the new bride - something the ladies did for the new mom.
I’m for equality and all that but a shower on a Sunday afternoon? One which I am expected to attend - in the middle of football season no less? That’s just not right.
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If Beth really wants you to go with her to either type of shower, even on a Sunday during football season, then the shower is for men. The real issue here (when Wife wants you to go with her) is: Do I want to watch football at home while my wife is at a shower, or do I want to be happy?
The times they are a-changing! In recent years, I’ve been at several baby showers where the prospective father was in attendance and actually helped to open the gifts. At least one of these also had other male relatives in attendance. I haven’t been to any wedding showers where the men came, but I have heard of some, and maybe even one that was given by men for the man (you know, garden tools, etc.). As for “supposed to” attend, I don’t know about that, but it is certainly becoming acceptable. By the same token, it used to be that engagement pictures/wedding portraits published in the newspapers were only of the bride. Now you see a lot of couples pictures.
During football season? Aw-w-ww-w-w!
This is evidence of further moral decay in the church. Mixed showers? What’s the difference between that and mixed bathing? Growing up in Abilene, the Christin Youth Center had a large swimming pool with a fence that bisected the pool, men swam on one side of the fence, women on the other. Where the church once had boundaries, there are now new frontiers.
I just ask that we not have showers on Sundays. It’s the Lord’s day. That’s where the L in NFL came from. We should honor it.
Greg has a point. But I think you can still take Beth down if you really don’t want to go.
Bit do you want to go? Would you have wanted men to go to Beth’s shower? Do you feel that your identity as a man is threatened by “the shower”? Can you be yourself at the shower. For me, those are the real questions you should be dealing with. nrmmvi
Obviously Beth isn’t aware of the hermeneutic that our fellowship prides itself on. If she were aware (or perhaps the better words would be “practiced” or “adhered”) of the time honored way of interpreting scripture, (“command, example, inference) then she would know that Paul in Eph. 5 when referring to “wives being submissive to your husbands,” undoubtedly was giving a command. Of course the fact that Paul wasn’t married forces us to jump over “example” and go right to “inference.” And I’m sure that all my blog brothers and sisters would agree that the inference we can draw is that truly submissive wives would never approach their husbands with a request to attend a “shower” during football season!
Of course (and I’m heading Greg off at the pass on this one) if one’s wife goes from the “request” mode to the “you better go or else” mode, then this inference junk, I mean “approach” is off the table and I’m asking what time does the shower take place honey?
Oh, the sincerity! You guys crack me up.
I went to Lisa’s baby shower. Had fun. I had registered for Pepsi at Baby’s R Us and I wanted to see if anyone actually bought us some. They did.
Football? What is this football of which you speak? It’s the postseason, my friend. Time for the real games to begin. Go Angels! Boo Yankees!
usishjic!
Just a little aside for Cecil. Are you aware this is the second time you’ve referred to Ephesians 5 in the last two weeks? Hmmmmm.
Yes, I’m aware of that fact meowmix. I can’t understand why my wife doesn’t get it? Well, I have to go now. Barbara is telling me I need to take out the trash.
Yes, it is a great time of year to be a sports (unless your wife tells you to turn off the T.V. because its time for the Shower) fan. Go Seminoles!
Let me set the record straight. It was not Beth saying I had to go to the shower. Given the choice she would have stayed home to watch football as well. That’s just one of a million reasons why I married her.
I’d never seen the Lord so clearly in the NFL before. Thanks cd2lab for opening my eyes!
Sounds like Beth is my kind of woman. And for the record my wife has never tried to get me to attend a shower as well. I’m still working on that garbage thing.
Just thought of an angle. A couple of years ago, 2 ladies were walking our circle when they were attacked by a wild boar. One of them was walking with a cane (I’m not making this up) and was able to use it to repel it’s (I know, somebody is wanting to say that this is a “boar-ing” story) attack.
So I can tell my wife that it is actually dangerous for me to take out the trash. We’ll let #1 son face the danger.
Wife is number 1. I don’t like the idea of showers for men either, but I agree with Greg. Did i just say, I don’t like “showers” for men? I think I’ll go take one now. Sheeeoooowww!
Hmmmmm……..
Randy, just do what I always do in these situations, and ask yourself: What would Tadd do?
So … would the L in MLB have reference to the Lord as well? I would certanily think so if I were a baseball fan, which I’m not. The only really exciting sport out there and it’s seldom on TV is that one where they slide the round thing down the ice while some moron who thinks he / she is an athlete brushes the ice with a broom! Now that’s exciting!! Is it curling? Maybe curdling would be a better term??